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LEVANTE LAWN BOWLS (LLB)
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD ON TUESDAY 18th OCTOBER 2016 AT MONTE MAR BOWLS CLUB
1. Welcome and Apologies
Apologies were received from Dave Giddings (Greenlands)
Total Number of Clubs : 20 Number of Clubs Represented: 19
2. Minutes of Previous Meeting
The Minutes of the previous meeting held on 23rd August 2016 were accepted.
Proposed Vistabella Seconded Calpe
3. Matters Arising
No Matters arising.
4. President - Delegado (Bob Donnelly)
i) The winners of the Valencian Championships -
Men's singles Frank Close Ladies' singles Jacqui Johnston
Men's pairs Stuart Denholm/Chris Collier
Ladies' pairs Carol Broomfield/Peta Rhodes
Mixed pairs Jason Prokopowycz/Carol Broomfield
Mixed triples Dave Hadaway/Jim & Kath Manning
Mixed fours Bill Pain/Martin Foulcer/Arthur Brown/Mo Foulcer
Congratulations to them and all those who took part.
ii) Format of the Spanish Nationals - although this event is not run through the LLB these
meetings are the only and best way to communicate with Clubs. There have been various
meetings and emails to & with the different regions to try and think of a way to increase entries.
Malaga still have problems accepting the federation : Almeria suggested regionalising matches
but admit they do not have many fully federated members : Valencia - northern clubs suggested
possible regionalising the event : Tenerife suggested leaving it as it is.
Overall the opinion and then decision was for it to be held in the same region with the same
With the help of possible sponsor(s) the entry fee per person per discipline will be reduced to 2€, the reduction offsetting the cost of upgrading the federation fee and hopefully encouraging more entries.
iii) Venue(s) - Clubs interested in hosting the Spanish Nationals should email Deidre Leeming (email address on the contact list) BY the end of November. If the entries are similar to this year there might only be one venue needed.
Entry forms to be issued shortly (full information on them) and when completed submitted to Suzi Cooper BY 31st January 2017.
Also upgraded fees MUST be paid BY 31st January 2017 into the No 2 a/c.
iv) VCL north v south play off - unfortunately the then Federated League Co-ordinator
(June) forgot to take the perpetual trophy to the event - sincere apologies were made.
The trophy was presented to Benitachell the 2016 winner.
5. Secretary (June Jones)
i) Champion of Champions 2017 - entries to be sent to Julian Pering BY 26th March 2017
The entry form (which will have Julian's contact details) along with Rules of Entry etc. will be issued nearer the time.
ii) Venues - Clubs interested in hosting the event should advise the Secretary (JJ) BY
30th November 2016 in readiness for the December meeting.
Quesada mentioned that some venues are not so spectator friendly but unfortunately clubs
cannot be discriminated on.
iii) Constitution - both the Federation and CBBA had their own Constitutions which now need
to be merged for the LLB. There will be an EGM following the December meeting to ratify
the revised Constitution in time for January 2017. Any amendments/additions etc can be
proposed etc for the LLB AGM. Keith queried if there is or should be a Code of Conduct included. Anyone playing an international event has to sign one.
iv) LLB Calendar - the items in September/October 2017 were adjusted and the 2018 Calendar has been prepared along similar lines for entries - a bit of an assumption on my part -
and perhaps the 2018 calendar should NOT be issued until clubs confirm their requirements for
that year. Hopefully I can then issue it by mid 2017... I have heard from Vistabella & Benitachell
already. Quesada - how do clubs who have up to now not entered an event go about it ?
find a suitable date, submit it to the Secretary and/or ask for help.
v) Calendar Rules - when accepting entries I am guided by these rules. BBC have a entry
in 2017 for their Masters - 4/7 September - and asked to change this to 23/24 September and
30 Sept/1st Oct having checked the calendar and believing these dates to be ok and free. I
advised that these new dates clash with the Valencian Championships (20 Sept - 3 Oct) and I
personally could not agree to it. Their view was that not many people from the northern clubs
and indeed BBC enter the Valencian. We have always asked clubs not to arrange any
competitions etc whilst the following are taking place Champion of Champions, Spanish
Nationals and Valencian Championships.
Various comments were made - if one club allowed to do this more could follow: restricts
entrants from the south : we are always trying to keep the north and south together, allowing
this could start a separation :
As Bob Donnelly advised - next year all inter club bowlers will be federated and this alone
could stimulate more interest; the format of the event might even be changed; any allowed clash
could affect both events.
A proposal was put forward : that Clubs may not host/hold any event whilst the Champion of
Champions Spanish Nationals Valencian Championships are taking place.
FOR 10 AGAINST 4 Abstentions 2 Carried
vi) In mentioning the Valencian Championships would clubs consider and report back
for the February 2017 meeting any suggestions for the format etc of this event.
6. Treasurer (Barbara Brown)
i) As yet the bulk of the federated funds have not been transferred over to the no 1 a/c
even though that old account has now been closed.
ii) A few expenses have been paid out and some money received in from tours.
iii) In spite of numerous reminders being sent some clubs are still using the wrong bank
a/c for payments.
7. Membership Secretary (Tony Hesketh-Field)
i) All 20 clubs have sent their prelim lists of names. A database has been prepared with
15 clubs entered and 5 to go. Any general report issued will only show the club and their members names - all other information which has been submitted will not be disclosed.
ii) Clubs are still asking which account is used for what in spite of notices being sent to
the club delegate. And when emailing could you please state what club you are from - even
lists have been sent without the club name on.
iii) Tried to be flexible in accepting information as this is a first and new to everyone BUT
people are saying NEW member when it is in fact it is a CHANGE of club and this is a big difference. Please help by clarifying the exact situation.
iv) San Luis sent in a list of their Legionnaires showing they had just paid the 12€ and were
not full club members. As yet nothing has been received re the Highjackers ?
v) Information MUST be sent/given by the Club delegate to the person(s) their club has
designated to be responsible for a particular role and this does not seem to be happening.
How secure is the database with the personal information given: it is well protected and Tony
has paid for extra security measures.
When will league co-ordinators receive the federated club membership lists : by mid November
ready for January
Advising of new members - just send the information to Tony & Lynn.
Dual membership : the federated fee should be paid through the club nominated for playing in
8. Membership Treasurer (Lynn Greenland)
i) Has had difficulty in identifying where money has come from as club name not stated
and does know who the club treasurers are -only resolved when the email is received.
ii) Capitation fee : this is paid to World Bowls and this year is 0.50c per member. The
necessary form will be issued shortly giving full details. Payment MUST be made BY the end
of November into the no 2 a/c.
iii) License fee : this is paid to Madrid - 20€ per Club and paid into the no 2 a/c BY the end
El Rancho expressed concerns that some banks make charges when paying money in..
nothing can be done about bank charges. Perhaps making payments by transfer might solve
the problem instead of paying it over the counter.
i) An email had been received from Javea Green asking for the wearing of skorts (a short
skirt with a pair of shorts underneath) to be admitted into the LLB Dress Code.
Felicity Jenkins (Captain of Javea Green) was wearing one to demonstrate how smart and
practical they are for players. They are mainly sold for golfers and there are suppliers on line.
The length of skirts and shorts are stated in the Dress Code and if to be accepted the length
of skorts should similarly be governed. The concern is that if purchased at a market they
would obviously not be the same quality and price but more importantly that they would be
Proposal : That skorts be included in the LLB Dress Code but MUST be Bermuda short length.
Votes - carried unanimously.
Proposal : that culottes are deleted from the Dress Code
Votes - carried unanimously.
10. Winter League ( June Jones - temp)
i) Only one match played so far.
ii) Premier 20 knockout - all match dates in :
Bonalba v San Luis November 10th BBC v Monte Mar October 27th
Emerald Isle v Vistabella October 30th Greenlands V Finca Guila November 13th
La Siesta v Javea Green November 13th Quesada v La Marina November 3rd.
Please remember to submit the result on the result sheet already issued.
11. Northern League (Peter Matthews)
Early days but all ok.
12. Southern League (Keith Jones)
i) Fixtures were issued shortly after the last meeting to all reps requesting details of Captains & Vice Captains asap and acknowledgment of having received the email. As is normal some clubs ignored this request and further reminders had to be sent. All it needs is to press the reply button, type thanks or ta and press send !
ii) Unfortunately San Luis withdrew a side from Division C on the 30th September - 2 weeks before the start of the season. It caused a tremendous amount of extra work in rescheduling and
advising clubs of changes at such short notice. 30 sides had to be advised as other divisions
were also affected in a change of start times.
Having discussed this with Arthur Brown we feel that if a club withdraws a side once the received entries have been discussed at the LLB meeting following the closing date, then that
Club should not be allowed to enter more teams than they played in the current season in the
following season. An amendment to the Generic Rules for the AGM.
iii) The first matches played on the 14th October and result sheets were completed with reasonable success. I am only prepared to accept the results typed on the result sheet provided.
13. SA Co-Ordinator (Arthur Brown)
i) Totally agree with all the comments made by Keith - no acknowledgments to requests
or info sent.
ii) Two teams withdrew - which caused a lot of extra work rescheduling and advising all
the sides of the changes. Totally agree to the proposed Rule change.
iii) The league has only just started but the correct result sheet MUST be used and will only
be accepted. Some results were sent in on last year's SABA forms !
iv) Do Clubs still want the following to continue that were held under the SABA banner:
Summer knockout competitions : pairs league : 3 day Tournament.
To report back at the December meeting
v) Summer Knockout finals results:
Men's singles Martin Foulcer Ladies' singles Jacqui Johnston
Men's pairs Tony French/Ian Kenyon
Ladies' pairs Sandra Heath/Jacqui Johnston
Mixed pairs Lynne Greenland/Steve Cantley
Mixed triples Mel Highland/Colin Highland/Jacqui Johnston
Congratulations to the winners and well done to all those who took part.
Jean Cooper expressed a big vote of thanks to Barbara & Arthur Brown for all their hard work
in running these events.
San Luis responded to the withdrawal of team in the Southern and South Alicante leagues - there was pressure from their owner to leave it to the last minute in trying to still enter 4 teams.
14. Associate Co-Ordinator
i) Fred Trigwell had initially agreed to take on this role but unfortunately had to withdraw.
Fortunately another 'volunteer' has been found - Ken Hope from San Miguel.
Rather than confuse clubs and give him a chance to settle in JJ carried on accepting the
entries and then discussing them at this meeting.
ii) Surprisingly with all inter club members being federated next year there was not the rush
of entries expected - ie increasing entries to 4 sides per club.
NORTH - only 4 entries El Cid, Benitachell, Bonalba & Javea Green.
SOUTH Last year there were 16 entries - this year 19 : 4 new ones and one dropped
(El Rancho). We have a limited playing season with it starting in January & finishing end of March - 10 weeks, 12 at a push. Making 3 divisions of 19 entries means the longest playing
schedule covering 14 weeks (including the byes) - not practical.
For 2017 a proposal that there be 4 divisions 5 5 5 & 4 The first 3 will consist of the
entries from last year and the final division the new entries, who always have to go into the
lower division. To equalise the first 3 divisions - 2 teams will be relegated from A to B :
one team will be promoted from B to A : one team will be relegated from B to C : one team
will be promoted from C to B....
Division A Quesada Panthers, San Luis Osprey , San Miguel Choctaws, Emerald Isle Leprechauns, Vistabella Vikings
Division B San Miguel Apaches, Greenlands Bulls, San Luis Condors, Quesada Leopards,
Monte Mar Lords
Division C Country Bowls Herons, San Miguel Mowhawks, La Siesta Hoopoes, San Luis
Division D Country Bowls Eagles, Emerald Isle Shamrocks, La Siesta Parakeets, Monte
To confirm preferred playing days/time: normal playing day Thursday pm.
Quesada & San Luis to play home matches on a Thursday morning with 2 home matches
being played together.
Horadada, La Siesta, Monte Mar & San Miguel Mowhawks to play home matches on a Tuesday afternoon.
Ken & I will have a meeting for the final handover and then ALL information will be sent out by
him and then sent back to him.
iii) Future - perhaps next year entries should be asked for much earlier in case they then
significantly increase and we start the league in October to accommodate and only have
3 divisions again.
15. Tour Co-Ordinator (Terry Perchard)
Having a problem with his voice Terry's report was read for him and he will do his best to
answer any queries/questions.
In the 7 or so years that I have been dealing with Tours I have been plagued by tours
arranged direct by clubs without my knowledge. This not only wastes my time but deprives LLB
of some income. My time is wasted because I am chasing dates that have already been taken
and income lost because we charge a fee for every Tour we arrange.
With the information I receive on the UK clubs arranging their own tours I email them and advise
them of the correct procedure - one assured me he would do it correctly and then I found out he
had again gone direct. Several others gave me a load of abuse and told me they always arranged their own tours and would carry on doing so. I also have one of our clubs who told me yes he accepts tours and will carry on.
Over the course of the years I have sent out reminders of Rules, which are now on the LLB
website, including one with a tours list - no noticeable difference has been seen and I have to ask am I wasting my time trying. I leave it to you to discuss what is best for the LLB, for me and
for your clubs.
a) Horadada - Windsor bowling were over here for 10 days and matches were arranged
with themselves and other clubs. They commented that Terry had sent them a 'strong' email.
b) A PRIVATE tour is one arranged for the visitors to play ONE club only - anything outside
of that is NOT a private tour. Any and all such tours MUST be notified to Terry.
c) The tour fees paid to the LLB help with the expenses of arranging such tours - which
are for the benefit of the club members AND the owners.
d) In arranging tours Terry tries to accommodate all clubs - if you are interested in taking
tours let him know.
e) Some clubs complained about not receiving any information ..... at this point the
Secretary interjected with the known problems of Club reps NOT passing on received relevant information to those responsible. It has been the worst year for this kind of communication
as highlighted by the League Co-ordinators. Information is just not being read, retained or
passed on. So Officers are being asked for information which has already been issued - in some
cases several times. The present Club reps have taken on the duties that was for the most part undertaken by 3 people - CBBA rep, Fed rep, SABA rep - all now merged into one - a lot of work but could be delegated to other (committee members?) to be responsible for certain areas.
f) San Miguel advised that abuse was received from a member of a touring side when
discussing Brexit - this is totally unacceptable. Any such incidents should be reported to Terry
who will discuss it with the Tour company.
g) Greenlands - Terry emailed them re problems they might have in providing 'meals' to
touring side and was advised there is no problem at all - they can accommodate quite easily
with a soup and roll. They later received another email to clarify this. Greenlands are
concerned that people are saying Greenlands do not have the necessary facilities - they do AND for the Winter League any northern club can phone ahead and order bacon sarnies etc
16. Provincial (Allen Bowen)
There has been a Summer break - the next match is on 5th November at Calpe.
Please return the sheets even if there is no one available.
17. Any Other Business
i) LLB Website - many thanks and congratulations to Gail on the setting up and running
of the website.
a) could the website be used for the selling/wanting of bowls? any such requests to sell
or for bowls wanted should go direct to Gail. There will be a 4 week time limit after which the
item will be removed.
b) individual club reports have been sent in - the LLB website is purely for general information, anything else must go on the Club website (if applicable)
c) league table information is entered asap.
d) any problems accessing the website please contact Gail.
ii) Scorecards - these can be ordered any time as they are produced quickly. Old CBBA
scorecards must be used first - the new order will show LLB with the new logo.
iii) FG - queried pay as you go people being allowed to play in leagues.
The new Constitution covers the requirements for people playing in LLB events.
El Rancho felt that if someone has paid their federation fee, the relevant club membership fee
(if applicable) then it was up to the owner/club re 'green fees' be it daily, monthly or annually.
FG explained that in the north they have a reciprocal arrangement re fees when playing away
(unlike the south where a fee has to be paid at away matches) and this is causing a problem
with pay as you go players who are seemingly playing free.
Viewpoints needed - but seems to be more of a club policy.
iv) Tony H-F : really does need a volunteer to 'shadow' his work - if for any reason he was
out of action for any time how would his role continue. PLEASE anyone interested contact
Tony to discuss it.
v) Quesada - dress code. Generally players are not conforming to the LLB Dress Code.
Delegates must pass on the correct dress code to their team Captains to ensure it is adhered
to. The present Constitution states that if anyone is incorrectly dressed then they cannot play.
A suggestion was put forward to let them play but points are deducted from the result.
vi) Bob Donnelly - had a few Valencian brochures if anyone wanted one and some promotional vouchers from Linea Directa.
vii) Due to the merging of all the previous organisation/committees the LLB meetings are
likely to take a little longer. A suggestion was could they start at 10.00am instead of 10.30am?
vii) With agreement the December meeting date has been changed from the 6th to the 8th.
18. Date and Venue of Next Meeting
There being no further business the meeting closed at 13.10pm.
The date of the next meeting is THURSDAY 8th DECEMBER 2016 at Monte Mar Bowls Club 9.30 for 10.00am start, followed by an EGM to ratify the new Constitution.
Mince pies on arrival.